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  2. SAK-40412

Forums - Statistics and Grading - New posts and replies are being tallied as read messages too



    • Type: Bug
    • Status: OPEN
    • Priority: Major
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • Affects Version/s: 11.4, 12.3
    • Fix Version/s: None
    • Component/s: Forums Tool
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      If a site participant creates a new conversation or replies to an existing thread, the Forums "Statistics & Grading" feature will also increment the "Read" statistic for that student. This seems like statistic inflation.  From the perspective of an instructor, the "Authored" stat is about posts made by the specific person.  The "Read" stat should tally how many messages by other site participants have been read by the student in question (or marked as read by the person).

      It's possible that the statistics were designed in "Statistics & Grading" to treat a new post or reply as a "read" event, but I would guess that the majority of instructors would view this as "double dipping" or "stat inflation."


      1. Create a site.
      2. Enroll a student.
      3. Log in as the student and visit the site.
      4. Go to a topic.
      5. Click "Start a new conversation."
      6. Enter title and message and click "Post."
      7. Log in as instructor.
      8. Go to Forums
      9. Click "Statistics & Grading"
      10. The statistics for the student will include Author 1 and Read 1 (giving the student credit for reading their own post).
      Name Authored Read Unread Percent Read
      Student01 1 1 0 100%

      From my perspective as an instructor, I would expect from the activity of a student only posting a single message (and doing nothing else).  The read/unread counts should not include the student's own posts.  I would like to see the stats reflect the following for a single post and no other activity:

      Name Authored Read Unread Percent Read
      Student01 1 0 0 N/A

      I am guessing that the developer(s) or institution that created this feature chose to give credit to the student for "reading" their own post.  Perhaps this was philosophical or perhaps technical.  I can see that generating the statistics per student would be more complex to exclude the person's own posts from the read/unread count.  Hopefully, technology has caught up with any reporting delays from the past to address this concern?

      While I view this as a bug (that the count is incorrect), I'm open to hearing other perspectives or use-cases to include a student's own posting in the read/unread count. Would love to hear community feedback on this item.

      Thank you!

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                  maintenanceteam Core Team
                  alanregan Alan Regan
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